Man, we must've sent "Empty Gold" to get additional production on it like eight times because it just has this huge cinematic feeling to it, just like, this big action scene, like, things are gonna come to a resolve, walking to the end of the sunset, credits-rolling kind of feeling, and we really wanted someone who was gonna nail that 'cause, you know, I tell you guys all the time that I want my music to have a cinematic quality and a very visual aspect, um, and "Empty Gold" is like one of those songs that really just built up for me and had like a lot of swa-gger. Swagger? Oh, yeah, I'll use that one, swagger. There was also this kind of like, kind of like hikening and there's like a build up and it's like really exciting, so when we finally got this version back, um, we were all ecstatic about it because it gives you this like this reckless, breathless feeling, but there's also a sense of triumph in it, and I think that was really important to us in putting this song out.
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