[Intro: Bill Baldini, Johnny, Geraldo Rivera, Dr. Michael Wilkins & *Dr. Richard Koch*]
You have just heard about Johnny
He's been causing discipline problems here at Pennhurst
So they thought they would send him to Q2
We thought you would like to see where Johnny lives
Johnny, can you talk?
Yes
Do you like it here at Pennhurst?
No
Why not, John?
Um
It's—, it's bad
Let me ask you this, John, do you remember living anywhere except Pennhurst?
No
Do you like talking to the people up here?
Yeah
Why, John?
'Cause they like to talk to me
How about the other kids, the ones that can talk, do they like to talk to you too?
Yes
Do you like to talk to them better than the kids up here?
Yes
Have you been talking more lately or less?
Less
Why are you here in Q2, John?
I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing
So they punished you and put you here?
Yes
And they do this to you all the time, John?
Yes
Why are you here in Q2, John?
I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing
Why are you here in Q2, John?
The doctor had warned me that it would be bad, it was horrible (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
There was one attendant for perhaps fifty severely and profoundly retarded children (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing, I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
The ones that we saw were the most, uh, severely and profoundly retarded (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing, I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
There are thousands here like them, uh, not going to school, sitting on the ward all day (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing, I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
Not being talked to by anyone (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
Only one or two or three people to take care of seventy people on the ward (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
Sharing the same toilets, contracting the same diseases (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
Can the children be trained? (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
Yes, every child can be trained, you know, these kids, there's no effort, we don't know what these kids are capable of doing (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing, I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
(I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
*And I think your priorities are mixed up in New York, in terms of serving the retarded* (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
*Your top investment is in institutions* (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
*Our top investment is in the Department of Education* (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
*In providing a program for the child while he's at home in terms of day care* (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing, I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
*For example, these kids can go to school at age three years* (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
*So they start at very young, and that helps a great deal for the parents* (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
You have just heard about Johnny
He's been causing discipline problems here at Pennhurst
So they thought they would send him to Q2
We thought you would like to see where Johnny lives
Johnny, can you talk?
Yes
Do you like it here at Pennhurst?
No
Why not, John?
Um
It's—, it's bad
Let me ask you this, John, do you remember living anywhere except Pennhurst?
No
Do you like talking to the people up here?
Yeah
Why, John?
'Cause they like to talk to me
How about the other kids, the ones that can talk, do they like to talk to you too?
Yes
Do you like to talk to them better than the kids up here?
Yes
Have you been talking more lately or less?
Less
Why are you here in Q2, John?
I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing
So they punished you and put you here?
Yes
And they do this to you all the time, John?
Yes
Why are you here in Q2, John?
I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing
Why are you here in Q2, John?
The doctor had warned me that it would be bad, it was horrible (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
There was one attendant for perhaps fifty severely and profoundly retarded children (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing, I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
The ones that we saw were the most, uh, severely and profoundly retarded (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing, I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
There are thousands here like them, uh, not going to school, sitting on the ward all day (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing, I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
Not being talked to by anyone (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
Only one or two or three people to take care of seventy people on the ward (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
Sharing the same toilets, contracting the same diseases (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
Can the children be trained? (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
Yes, every child can be trained, you know, these kids, there's no effort, we don't know what these kids are capable of doing (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing, I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
(I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
*And I think your priorities are mixed up in New York, in terms of serving the retarded* (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
*Your top investment is in institutions* (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
*Our top investment is in the Department of Education* (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
*In providing a program for the child while he's at home in terms of day care* (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing, I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
*For example, these kids can go to school at age three years* (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
*So they start at very young, and that helps a great deal for the parents* (I did something I wasn't supposed to be doing)
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