Female Interviewer: That part to what drew you to this script into Spoon? or?
2Pac: Well in a way because I felt, upon my release I felt
like I wanted to be seen as a completely human being, I'm through, like mimicking characters for people so that they can get a better understanding on what young black males are about. I wanna mimic a whole character so that I can get a better understanding on what man and human beings are about. So now, it's like I don't care about making people understand how we are, that's what I used to do, every part was just about digging deeper into who young black males are, and I feel like I was actor I can do that, I'm interested in that. And "Spoon" is my first vengeance break it off into that new philosophy, as far as at being not all sad, not violent, not all serious, it's funny. To somebody who just hear that I'm heroin junky, they'll think "oh it's just the same thing", but that's part of love that I'll give when I see them see the movie, and they'll go "oh", it's just a heroin addict like you've never seen.
Female Interviewer: He has so much. Well it's really gotta lot of realism in it, because it mean in real life, you're in horrible situations, made funny happens, and it's too funny.
2Pac: Yeah, yes!, and that's what I like
and we're like, we always joke mean tender, it's actual reaction stars now we're runnin' the stuff. And if you look at us, we look like the two most unlikely action stars in the world, so he's like, we always joke like "we're the new Danny Glover and Mel Gibson", I'm the Mel Gibson, he's the Danny Glover, and that's part of the whole thing now. It's fun for us to do this 'cause he's not used to this and I'm not used to this. Well he's like an actor's actor so he's done every part, Tennis played, the ice cream cone— [Laughs] But I have to play lot of different parts, so it's fun to when I do "do this" to do with him, it makes me feel comfortable. And I can take his criticisms and his praises more seriously knowin' that he knows what he's talkin' about, 'cause usually I want to give credit to him, that actor like. What does he know! But him I can respect.
Female Interviewer: Let's just talk about Spoon for a while 'cause he's such an interesting character.
And I guess you know, tell us like a little bit of his adventure that he goes on?
2Pac: Spoon, he is a man who hasn't found that peace yet, you know how they say "you born and you go through things
and then you go to this big catharsis and you change". Well he's going though things, he hasn't yet found the door to change. So he's like, in his mid 20's going through his late 20's and still hasn't done anything with his life, except get high and being into this music thing. And he's always been like "a take I took I got" take things from this person take things from that person, but with Stretch;he's givin', it's like I'm his guardian and I think that Spoon is scared to move away or walk away from Stretch because he'll not know how empty his life truly is, and how he's really nowhere. So to me is that's good because it talks about the need for friendship and it talks about the bond that our friendship is about, not only me and Stretch, but Stretch and I and Cookie you know what I mean, the bond that we all share, so that's what I think it's deep about that ship.
Female Interviewer: Oh, [?] isn't it? When you start Spoon is the one that decides that you guys should quit.
2Pac: Yeah, no doubt.
Female Interviewer: And you keep play pulling and stretches sorry —[Laughs], back to load and get into trouble.
2Pac: he represents euthanasia you know to die slowly, to die painlessly you know what I mean?; that's his character it's 'euthanasia' and my character is reality because I don't wanna die. So when it comes to that point when we get to the door we either die, you know we gotta take that big chance, Stretch has no problem taking that chance because he feels as though he's already dying. So is to die slow, is to die painlessly, whatever fun we can have on the way is what he wants to do, whereas with me it's like I don't wanna die. So I'm constantly getting us out of this drama that he puts us in.
Female Interviewer: [?]
2Pac: Well in a way because I felt, upon my release I felt
like I wanted to be seen as a completely human being, I'm through, like mimicking characters for people so that they can get a better understanding on what young black males are about. I wanna mimic a whole character so that I can get a better understanding on what man and human beings are about. So now, it's like I don't care about making people understand how we are, that's what I used to do, every part was just about digging deeper into who young black males are, and I feel like I was actor I can do that, I'm interested in that. And "Spoon" is my first vengeance break it off into that new philosophy, as far as at being not all sad, not violent, not all serious, it's funny. To somebody who just hear that I'm heroin junky, they'll think "oh it's just the same thing", but that's part of love that I'll give when I see them see the movie, and they'll go "oh", it's just a heroin addict like you've never seen.
Female Interviewer: He has so much. Well it's really gotta lot of realism in it, because it mean in real life, you're in horrible situations, made funny happens, and it's too funny.
2Pac: Yeah, yes!, and that's what I like
and we're like, we always joke mean tender, it's actual reaction stars now we're runnin' the stuff. And if you look at us, we look like the two most unlikely action stars in the world, so he's like, we always joke like "we're the new Danny Glover and Mel Gibson", I'm the Mel Gibson, he's the Danny Glover, and that's part of the whole thing now. It's fun for us to do this 'cause he's not used to this and I'm not used to this. Well he's like an actor's actor so he's done every part, Tennis played, the ice cream cone— [Laughs] But I have to play lot of different parts, so it's fun to when I do "do this" to do with him, it makes me feel comfortable. And I can take his criticisms and his praises more seriously knowin' that he knows what he's talkin' about, 'cause usually I want to give credit to him, that actor like. What does he know! But him I can respect.
Female Interviewer: Let's just talk about Spoon for a while 'cause he's such an interesting character.
And I guess you know, tell us like a little bit of his adventure that he goes on?
2Pac: Spoon, he is a man who hasn't found that peace yet, you know how they say "you born and you go through things
and then you go to this big catharsis and you change". Well he's going though things, he hasn't yet found the door to change. So he's like, in his mid 20's going through his late 20's and still hasn't done anything with his life, except get high and being into this music thing. And he's always been like "a take I took I got" take things from this person take things from that person, but with Stretch;he's givin', it's like I'm his guardian and I think that Spoon is scared to move away or walk away from Stretch because he'll not know how empty his life truly is, and how he's really nowhere. So to me is that's good because it talks about the need for friendship and it talks about the bond that our friendship is about, not only me and Stretch, but Stretch and I and Cookie you know what I mean, the bond that we all share, so that's what I think it's deep about that ship.
Female Interviewer: Oh, [?] isn't it? When you start Spoon is the one that decides that you guys should quit.
2Pac: Yeah, no doubt.
Female Interviewer: And you keep play pulling and stretches sorry —[Laughs], back to load and get into trouble.
2Pac: he represents euthanasia you know to die slowly, to die painlessly you know what I mean?; that's his character it's 'euthanasia' and my character is reality because I don't wanna die. So when it comes to that point when we get to the door we either die, you know we gotta take that big chance, Stretch has no problem taking that chance because he feels as though he's already dying. So is to die slow, is to die painlessly, whatever fun we can have on the way is what he wants to do, whereas with me it's like I don't wanna die. So I'm constantly getting us out of this drama that he puts us in.
Female Interviewer: [?]
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