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Tupac & Monster Kody Phone Conversation October 18, 1995 - 2Pac (Ft. Sanyika Shakur)
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Tupac & Monster Kody Phone Conversation October 18, 1995 2Pac (Ft. Sanyika Shakur)

Tupac & Monster Kody Phone Conversation October 18, 1995 - 2Pac (Ft. Sanyika Shakur)
Tupac: Sanyika, what's up?
Sanyika: Tupac, true playa. I got the message you was trying to send. But, you know, they had me on the Hannibal Lecter trip.
Tupac: Yeah. I was wondering what happened because they did that to me too when I was up in there.
Sanyika: Yeah, I heard.
Tupac: Certain people I couldn't write to like Mutulu. They opened my whole letter to him.
Sanyika: Oh, yeah, well, you know, I would get at Mutulu, but I go ride long way, right?
Tupac: Uh-huh.
Sanyika: Through this cat named Robin—
Tupac: Uh-huh.
Sanyika: —or I get at Watani I go another way too, right?
Tupac: But I'm scared to do that shit, I ain't wanna everybody else to get the letter 'cause if this other cat wrote me and said that you talked to him and it was cool and send it through him but I was like, "Shit."
Sanyika: Yeah, yeah.
Tupac: How I know he said that?
Sanyika: Right, right.
Tupac: Everybody know I'm trying to get at you.
Sanyika: And that was good shout-out you gave me, man in The Vibe, man.
Tupac: Oh, you know, it's all good. I'm trying to tell it to your face for the longest time.
Sanyika: I'm telling you. Ayy, ayy, you don't remember where we met at, huh?
Tupac: Nah, Watani said it was up in L.A., right?
Sanyika: Straight it up, man.
Tupac: I don't remember that shit.
Sanyika: It was me, you, it was [?] Dara we was kicking it in Mkumbu's pad.
Tupac: I still don't remember that shit, you know I budded out though.
Sanyika: I know, homie.
Tupac: [?]
Sanyika: Hey, you got my number here though?
Tupac: Nah.
Sanyika: You called me, remember?
Tupac: But I got the number from Mo, he was with me, he dialed the number for me.
Sanyika: Okay, take this number down.
Tupac: Okay.
Sanyika: 9-0-9.
Tupac: Mhm.
Sanyika: 2-4-3.
Tupac: Mhm.
Sanyika: 2-8-8-9.
Tupac: 2-8-8-9.
Sanyika: Ayy, you know we started shooting the movie next month, right?
Tupac: You do?
Sanyika: I'm telling you, man, I want you to play me, man.
Tupac: I wanna play you. They can't have nobody play you.
Sanyika: Okay, dig this. Check this out.
the producer— I mean, director, right— is Antoine Fuqua, a young brother. 28 years old from Baltimore, right. But he straight, straight up cat like us, right.
Tupac: Mhm.
Sanyika: And he's a good cat. We got hella pull with him, right.
Tupac: Mhm.
Sanyika: We didn't even did casting yet, man.
Tupac: Mhm.
Sanyika: You know?
Tupac: You gotta put me down.
Sanyika: I'm telling you, I had seen your shit, I just seen Juice.
Tupac: Oh, you did? [Pac laughs]
Sanyika: 'Cause I was all locked up all them years.
Tupac: Oh shit.
Sanyika: I just seen your shit, man.
Tupac: Word!
Sanyika: Yep, Above the Rim who that last night
Tupac: Yeah, when I was up in that jailhouse, I wrote one too, I suppose to be getting that shit together. What else you doing, man?
Sanyika: Ayy, man you won't believe I got some dope ass lyrics.
Tupac: Word?
Sanyika: I'm serious! I got this shit called "Level 5" that's bomb shit.
Tupac: Word! [laughs] You got to come to the studio then.
Sanyika: I'm telling you, I got some shit.
Tupac: So, when are you going to come through?
Sanyika: When can I come through?
Tupac: Anytime you want. I'm in the studio every day. I'm finishing my album. I'm doing a double album this Christmas called All Eyez On Me. I got the song with Dre, I got the song with Roger, I got a song with George Clinton.
Sanyika: That shit is fat.
Tupac: Faith, I got Sister Souljah coming, if you're coming then we can do the bomb shit. (I'm telling you)
Sanyika: Hey, check this out, check this out. I'm telling you that shit you shout, man "So Many Tearz"
Tupac: Yeah.
Sanyika: Man, I burst out in tears when I heard that shit.
Tupac: You liked that shit?
Sanyika: Man you shot that shit, I'm telling you, yesterday I was cleaning up the pad.
Tupac: Uh-huh.
Sanyika: And I was me and my wife, right.
Tupac: Mhm.
Sanyika: And I'm cleaning up the pad, and Um "Lord Knows" was on, right.
Tupac: Uh-huh.
Sanyika: And at the last verse—
Tupac: Yeah.
Sanyika: —that shit hit me and froze me, man.
Tupac: [?] man?
Sanyika: Man, hey, hey, homie, I love that shit outta you man, you shot that shit
Tupac: [2Pac laughs] [?] partner
Sanyika: I'm telling you.
Tupac: You're my player. I was telling you, it was this letter I was trying to send to you, man, when them dudes started diss this to me.
Sanyika: Man! Who was that man?
Tupac: it was these fools from New York, this gang out there called "A Team". Dee fools was mad 'cause I told 'em I won't fuck with 'em no more.
Sanyika: You motherfuckers, I was mad as hell about that.
Tupac: So when they put the pistols out, I swear on everything I love. first thing I thought about was reading your book when you told 'em about how you felt when them niggas drew down.
Sanyika: Ain't that cold?
Tupac: That's exactly how I felt, the set up, the shit you was talking about, how you just look up and nigga be like, "boom".
Sanyika: Like that.
Tupac: Everything was just like that
Sanyika: And when I was reading about the shit happened to you I was like many shit stayed like parallel to me
Tupac: It's exactly, man.
Sanyika: I'm telling you.
Tupac: Bug me out.
Sanyika: Man, I'm telling you we started shooting in December, man, and no later than January and propaganda is doing it, right.
Tupac: Uh-huh, that's good.
Sanyika: Propaganda doing it polygram. And when the shit is all ready, man, I'm telling you, I'ma plug you in. Can't nobody do that shit but you might as well [?] Shakur thing.
Tupac: Alright I'ma blow it up.
Sanyika: Shakur thang.
Tupac: Hey, I represent it for you, all the New York, I got all those New York dudes who hate the West Coast.
Sanyika: Yeah.
Tupac: Screamin' out yo' name
Sanyika: Hell with that shit.
Tupac: I was passin' your autobiography for niggas 'cause they didn't understand the West Side.
Sanyika: I'm telling ya, I seen you on BET one time. It was you and John Singleton, right?
Tupac: Yeah.
Sanyika: You ask John Singleton, you had the book "Do or Die", you be ready, eat to live and Watani was there too.
Tupac: Uh-huh, Yeah.
Sanyika: I been following you, bruh.
Tupac: Yeah, man. Nigga John Singleton is a coward though.
Sanyika: I also heard what you did to the Hughes Brothers.
Tupac: Yeah.
Sanyika: I read that article-- that interview Dream did with you.
Tupac: Yeah, Hughes Brothers is cowards too.
Sanyika: Yeah.
Tupac: Man I've just been struggling out here looking for you man I need some help, man.
Sanyika: I'm telling you I'm here, brother. Whatever I can do, I'm telling you straight up. I'ma plug you in.
Tupac: Got to, man.
Sanyika: I'm telling you, man, I'm telling you 'Pac.
Tupac: And I want to get this organization started wit' you. Only we can do it, let me tell you the idea.
Sanyika: Alright.
Tupac: It's like, we're like, we start, like, this youth league, right.
Sanyika: Right.
Tupac: Football league, basketball, football-- I mean basketball, football, softball for girls and boys.
Sanyika: Yeah.
Tupac: I'ma get all the rappers to adopt a team.
Sanyika: Right.
Tupac: Each rapper have his own team; Coolio have his team, Treach have his team, I have my team and we play, and the rappers the ones that put the money up. We get to field, we play, we have, like, the churches come out and sell food.
Sanyika: That's real.
Tupac: We have the fathers and the uncles and all them and the community, they do security.
Sanyika: Right.
Tupac: To get they respect back for the kids and everything then. We have the Afroman come out, we have the Deckens from the church, they do the security. And we just play football, baseball you know get back community spirit going again. Then on the weekend we have back parties.
Sanyika: Alright.
Tupac: Every rapper gotta get up, every rapper, nigga if you gotta recognize you gotta get up for us, you gotta come to a free show for the hood.
Sanyika: That's real.
Tupac: And it's like a little tour so we do that, then we get all the communities back together. And I'm talking to Al Sharpton about this, some other motherfuckers with some power. And then when we do that, we register to the voters, and if we can register for Democrats, Republican or independent. Once we register to the voters, we have power. Then we start going up to the mayors of these cities and telling them, "Look, we got this many voters in this city; we want you to do this, we want a community center." We start hittin' up Nike for the free clothes and [?] stores for the free computers in each community center. And if they don't then, shit, that's how many people will have in those cities, we can regulate. Y'knaw mean?
Sanyika: Yah!
Tupac: If we tellin' the mayor nigga if you don't do this then we ain't gon' do this.
Sanyika: Yeah.
Tupac: We tellin' him we can clean up the streets, I'ma have all these tough-ass supposed to be gangsta rappers.
Sanyika: Straight up.
Tupac: We gon' all get in the van, we gon' travel, L.A. gotta be the last place 'cause it gon' be the hardest but we can do the Jersey and all of that, we gon' drive to all these drug areas, right?
Sanyika: Yeah.
Tupac: Imagine me, Redman, Treach, Ice Cube [?] havin' nigga for gettin' out, goin' out to whoever the main drug dealer on that block, who run shit, you know, we get out of our man being "What's up, nigga, hey y'all doing, what's up, ayy yo, who the nigga that run shit" they gon' take us to that nigga. We invite those niggas to dinner, invite them niggas to some Dom Pérignon.
[Sanyika laughs]
Tupac: And lobster, anjd be like look player we askin' you not tellin' you, we askin' you as a player to a player, can you please give us a path to have these street clean, from 6 a.m. to 11 p.m. 6 a.m. to 11 p.m.
Sanyika: Right.
Tupac: Let that be for the kids, let them niggas be safe, doing no time, no gun shots, no drug dealings. From 11 p.m. till 6 a.m., y'all can have the streets back, but let us get the streets from these times. Then, we can get these [?] he said he can get to the the police to, like, chill out, um— No, those nights times patrol, if niggas can get the streets clean from 6 to 11.
Sanyika: Hey, but you know what else too though? Why talk to them face to face, pin out some shit on you, right? Some other stuff too, right?
Tupac: Mhm.
Sanyika: But yeah, that's bad, man, and we all that, right? And, um, you know, that's my top of work.
Tupac: Yeah, we need power, man.
Sanyika: I'm telling you, ayy. Dig it, man. Hey, I'm telling you, we got power now.
Tupac: Yeah, we need power. Power is numbers. It's like, these rappers, man, while we don't have it, we got the juice, we just say doing nuttin' wit' it.
Sanyika: Because it ain't collectivized. Say what, did you see the cats in Chicago? I think they was GDs.
Tupac: Yeah.
Sanyika: 'Cause they havin' it put people in the streets.
Tupac: I know they be lookin' out for me when I come out there.
Sanyika: And they be runnin' people on the picky like the council.
Tupac: I know they got them— This dude, what's his name? Um, some nigga they just had out there but he lost.
Sanyika: Gatory club gator
Tupac: Yeah, he came close though.
Sanyika: Yeah, him and some good cats too man.
Tupac: I went out there they be lookin' out for me, but they be gang like within one set. They want me to be down with them and Black Stones want me to be with them, GDs be with them, but, yeah, I had a run-in with them in Milwaukee, 'cause when that little kid died. Yummy Sandifer.
Sanyika: Yeah, I heard you sent a shout-out to him.
Tupac: Yeah, I had to do a show that next day after they just killed that kid.
Sanyika: Yeah.
Tupac: 'Cause you knew what happened right?
Sanyika: Yeah, they executed him.
Tupac: Right, they executed him and I was out there when I did the show. The gang was in the fuckin' audience, the whole gang had like bought out the stadium.
Sanyika: Damn!
Tupac: So I'm rappin' to the niggas that just killed this little kid.
Sanyika: Oh!
Tupac: And they all screamin' out "Thug Life". I felt bad. Like, what it is, this, they got it twisted.
Sanyika: Yeah.
Tupac: So I started cursin' them niggas out like "Y'all niggas is cowards. Y'all niggas cowards. Y'all killed that kid. Y'all niggas is punks, man. I hate all of you."
[?]
[Sanyika laughs]
Tupac: Them niggas started throwin' shit [?] in the stadium (Word!, Damn!)
Tupac: It was tough, man. The whole gang toured the whole neighborhood but then I started gettin' letters from that area where all, like, the mothers, the girls was writin' me like "Thank you for doing that 'cause everybody scared of these niggas". See, that's what I want to do.
Sanyika: That's right.
Tupac: If these gang niggas ain't gon' get straight, then I wanna take 'em out the game.
Sanyika: That's real.
Tupac: 'Cause if they don't, it's making trouble on us, you kna'mean?
Sanyika: 'Cause if you ain't part of the solution, then you part of the problem.
Tupac: No doubt.
Sanyika: Where you gon' be when you tryna whack us anyway?
Tupac: No doubt! [Pac laughs]
Sanyika: Man, so shit, business as usual.
Tupac: That's how I feel.
Sanyika: But just pull up force is good, man. You know I want all that, Pac, you know. Any time, anything I can do, brother, you know, that's what I'm about, man. I've always been less the talker, more the doer and, um, you know, I mean, that's just my style, man.
Tupac: Yeah, no doubt, you talked to Bone?
Sanyika: Yeah, in fact, me and Bone--
Tupac: He finna do something too.
Sanyika: Yeah, Bone is doing when they shoot the movie, Bone doing the documentary called "The Making of the Monster", right?
Tupac: Oh, yeah.
Sanyika: And he's also doing another documentary, man.
Tupac: About gangbanging.
Sanyika: Yeah, about street organizations that's all footages from the Panthers.
Tupac: Man!
Sanyika: And, um, you know shit is fat, man. How's moms doing?
Tupac: She's doing good. We had a big-ass show in Vegas
Sanyika: Did she?
Tupac: We had a big-ass show. Me and the Dogg 'cause I'm on Death Row now.
Sanyika: Yeah, next reservations.
Tupac: Thanks.
Sanyika: You happy over there?
Tupac: Yes, aight so far, let me tell you, hold on a second.
Sanyika: Aight.
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